driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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driecg36 - banned by Alanii

Post by driecg36 »

BYOND username:

driecg36

Banning admin:

Alanii

Type of Ban:

Temporary

Duration of ban(if temp):

2 weeks

Reason for ban:

"Planned to beat up actor premeditated with other players for no legitimate reason other than 'to beat them up.' Also appears to ignore their job (Ironhammer Commander) and not aide crewmembers when assaults took place. Simply watched it happen until they felt like intervening."

Your version of events:

The first event was stupid as hell - we just jumped the gun on EORG. I must not have made as clear as I intended but I wanted to beat up the actor after the round end but I guess we got too excited and did it RIGHT before the pod departed. I don't know if the logs show this but it was literally less than 30 seconds before the pods left.

As to the first event, I had been doing my job the entire round, had rescued multiple crewmembers from roaches, dealt with threats as they arose and cooperated with the crew time and time again. The exultant had been difficult to deal with the entire round, even going to the point of claiming that he had rigged up his death implant with de-laminating the core when he died in case we were to attack him for some reason. He walked out of the medbay, and the actor (the same one we beat up later) started attacking him and the exultant was fighting back. I asked him if he wanted help or if he wanted to deal with it himself, since it was a relatively minor fist fight and I thought it'd be better for them to work it out rather than arresting everyone (which I thought I had the discretion to do as commander). This was also happening in the medbay lobby with a doctor present so there was no risk of serious injury or death. He didn't answer and fought back against the actor, but when it got out of hand and the actor pulled out a crowbar and attacked the CE was when I intervened and arrested the actor.

Why you think you should be unbanned:

BLUF - Beating up the actor was premature EORG and the fight was me using my discretion in hopes of not having to put anyone in the brig and then intervening when things got out of hand.

The beating up the clown was just a dumb, premature EORG and I think a two week ban is kinda excessive for missing the mark for EORG by less than a minute. I admit it was not the brightest decision but we all make dumb decisions sometimes. It wasn't malicious "I wanna take this guy out of the round," especially considering I gave the actor a vastly reduced sentence for attacking the TE because I didn't want him locked up in there for 20 minutes.

The fight was a slightly bigger mistake. I used discretion in hoping the two would sort out the problem in between themselves rather than escalate so I wouldn't have to dole out any arrests and everyone could go back to what they were doing, but the actor started seriously endangering the TE so I stepped in. Perhaps I should've stepped in before but this seems like a relatively minor error to have a two week ban over.

In short, I believe a two week ban is excessive considering circumstances and that the ban should either be shorter or removed, and that the banning admin did not have the complete picture when she performed the ban as she was not able to ask me for my perspective as the ban was performed the round after this one, which I did not play.

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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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I'd also like to add that this is the first time I've been banned from Eris or even had any negative interaction with any admin after playing for over a year.

*that I remember. Now that I think about it I may have had another interaction with an admin a year ago but I can't remember what it is.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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I'm up to reduce the ban if not outright remove it if all the facts you've stated are true. I'll need to see Alanii's reply though.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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"The beating up the clown was just a dumb, premature EORG"

So what you're saying is that you killed a dude before the end of the round? This isn't a defense. Grief is still grief. Killing people before the round ends as a non-antagonist is -still- against the rules, and you would know this if you actually bothered to read them.



The evacuation vote passed at 22:33:10. You started planning to "beat" (read: you killed him) at 22:37:17. The killing starts at 22:39:58.
The round ended at 22:43:27. He died at 22:40:31.
Have some logs to verify the times.


[22:33:10] b6w-c91t VOTE: <b>Votes:</b><br><b> Abandon ship! - 3 votes.<br></b>

[22:37:57] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Fall wanna beat the clown to death with us next time he comes in.

[22:39:58] b6w-c91t ATTACK: /(Nena Goodman) has kicked /(Richard Sanchez)
[22:39:59] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kicked /(Richard Sanchez)
lots of beating logs until..
[22:40:31] b6w-c91t ACCESS: Logout: *no key*/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:43:28] b6w-c91t GAME: Antagonists at round end were...


So you've actually lied to us. Your idea was, by your own statement, to beat him up at round end.
All of the chatlogs I'm reading indicate otherwise -- you were fully intending to kill the dude regardless of how long there was until round end.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

Post by driecg36 »

I did kill him before the round end, but again it was premature. I know the rules and I know it was dumb but I had no ill intent against him, I just wanted to do dumb EORG as you do. I mispoke when I said that to Fall (I believe I said something different to people before that) and people jumped in too early before the round ended, but as you can see the attack started 3 minutes before round end and the shuttle leaves at around that time. As far as I'm aware, though I may be wrong, EORG starts when the shuttle leaves - I've seen people do it countless times and not get banned for it and there is nothing in the rules clarifying it.

I have read the rules, considering that I have not broken them in over a year of playing here except for one occasion where I performed EORG literal seconds before it was allowed.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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[22:31:06] b6w-c91t VOTE: Evacuate Ship vote started by Nozarati.

Conversations unreleated

[22:33:10] b6w-c91t VOTE: <b>Votes:</b><br><b> Abandon ship! - 3 votes.<br></b> Stay aboard - 2 vote.<br> Did not vote - 6<br>

Conversations unrelated

[22:35:42] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : It was pretty much suicide.
[22:35:43] b6w-c91t SAY: grey baby slime (866)/ : So... hungry...
[22:35:44] b6w-c91t SAY: Donny Smith/Largechef : I know how to solve this.
[22:35:45] b6w-c91t EMOTE: monkey (903)/ : <B>The monkey (903)</B> frowns.
[22:35:46] b6w-c91t SAY: Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : Who has lighter
[22:35:47] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Buggie Wise/(Nena Goodman) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:35:51] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Nice.
[22:35:53] b6w-c91t SAY: Donny Smith/Largechef : Back soon folks.
[22:35:56] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.
[22:35:56] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : <B>Jazlyn Ali</B> snores.
[22:35:56] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Solid kick.
[22:35:58] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.

This tells me you were completely fine with his person assaulting the actor and even encouraged it.

[22:37:17] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : If everyone beat the shit out of the clown next time he came in.
[22:37:18] b6w-c91t SAY: Nena Goodman/Buggie Wise : We get off the shuttle and kill the other one.
[22:37:19] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : All in?
[22:37:20] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : No guns.
[22:37:22] b6w-c91t SAY: Nena Goodman/Buggie Wise : ALL IN!
[22:37:24] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Just fists.
[22:37:29] b6w-c91t SAY: Operative Mercer/Kiroking : Im with you cheif
[22:37:35] b6w-c91t SAY: Jeffery Jefferson/Jeffery jefferson : Bro i'm a BRAIN not an AI.
[22:37:37] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : And no force gloves, dont want to make it too fast.
[22:37:37] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.
[22:37:37] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : <B>Jazlyn Ali</B> snores.
[22:37:48] b6w-c91t SAY: Jeffery Jefferson/Jeffery jefferson : Also aint the pods gonna get launched without you?
[22:37:49] b6w-c91t SAY: Donny Smith/Largechef : Yeah.
[22:37:52] b6w-c91t SAY: Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : Time to hack
[22:37:55] b6w-c91t SAY: Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : All the funds.
[22:37:56] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : Can you spare some change?
[22:37:57] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Fall wanna beat the clown to death with us next time he comes in.
[22:38:02] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.
[22:38:02] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : <B>Jazlyn Ali</B> snores.
[22:38:03] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : Oh yes
[22:38:06] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : I can help
[22:38:08] b6w-c91t SAY: Emily Fall/The_fenix_32 : Uh, sure
[22:38:12] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Dope.
[22:38:13] b6w-c91t SAY: Jeffery Jefferson/Jeffery jefferson : Wack.
[22:38:16] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : Can i get some
[22:38:19] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : Pwease

You were planning to beat the actor as soon as they showed up as shown in logs. Only one person mentioned anything regarding killing the others in the second escape pod when round ended.

[22:39:11] b6w-c91t SAY: Jimmy Bean/Fireclaw787 : What if i punch him with the same hand holding a switchblade?
[22:39:13] b6w-c91t SAY: Emily Fall/The_fenix_32 : Uh
[22:39:13] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Wait until he gets in so we can bust him in.
[22:39:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.
[22:39:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : <B>Jazlyn Ali</B> snores.
[22:39:15] b6w-c91t OOC: (LOCAL) Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : yer a faggot
[22:39:21] b6w-c91t SAY: Jeffery jefferson/(Dangerous Robot) : I still can't shoot, man.
[22:39:21] b6w-c91t SAY: Dangerous Robot/Jeffery jefferson : I still can't shoot, man.
[22:39:26] b6w-c91t SAY: Nena Goodman/Buggie Wise : He's in the other shuttle, probably.
[22:39:28] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Guys it's more fun to murder him with your bare hands, trust me.
[22:39:31] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : If he's in the other shuttle.
[22:39:34] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : We all rush him.
[22:39:38] b6w-c91t OOC: (LOCAL) Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : are you ever not a fag
[22:39:38] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Once we arrive.
[22:39:40] b6w-c91t SAY: Operative Mercer/Kiroking : Hes right you know
[22:39:41] b6w-c91t SAY: Operative Mercer/Kiroking : Wait-
[22:39:44] b6w-c91t OOC: (LOCAL) Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : only 1000
[22:39:46] b6w-c91t EMOTE: monkey (102)/ : <B>The monkey (102)</B> sighs.
[22:39:46] b6w-c91t SAY: Operative Mercer/Kiroking : Them squeaky steps
[22:39:47] b6w-c91t OOC: (LOCAL) Don Coscarelli/Nozarati : or should i just kill you
[22:39:48] b6w-c91t SAY: Nena Goodman/Buggie Wise : I'll throw a molotov and tazer the clown.
[22:39:51] b6w-c91t SAY: Emily Fall/The_fenix_32 : Well if jeff doesn't go trigger happy
[22:39:51] b6w-c91t SAY: Jimmy Bean/Fireclaw787 : I hear him

This portion is where you mentioned what you would do if you were in the pod. Soon someone heard their steps and everyone clearly got excited.

[22:39:55] b6w-c91t SAY: Nena Goodman/Buggie Wise : Then you take care of the other shuttle.
[22:39:58] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Buggie Wise/(Nena Goodman) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:39:59] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:39:59] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Largechef/(Donny Smith) used the inteliCard to card Jeffery jefferson/(Dangerous Robot) (INTENT: HELP) (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=105;Y=102;Z=1'>JMP</a>)
[22:40:00] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Buggie Wise/(Nena Goodman) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:00] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kneed Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:01] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:01] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Buggie Wise/(Nena Goodman) disarmed Richard Sanchez (mateja03)
[22:40:02] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:02] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:02] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:03] b6w-c91t ATTACK: The_fenix_32/(Emily Fall) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:03] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:04] b6w-c91t ATTACK: The_fenix_32/(Emily Fall) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:04] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:04] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:04] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:04] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:05] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has kneed Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:05] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:05] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:05] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:05] b6w-c91t ATTACK: The_fenix_32/(Emily Fall) has kicked Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer)
[22:40:06] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:06] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:07] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:07] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:08] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Lieutenant Gardner grabbed passively a Richard Sanchez.
[22:40:08] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:09] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Lieutenant Gardner pinned down Richard Sanchez.
[22:40:12] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Lieutenant Gardner (driecg36) has thrown Richard Sanchez (mateja03) from <font color='#6b5d00'>tile at 103, 103, 1 in area Escape Hangar B</font> with the target <font color='#6b4400'>tile at 107, 103, 1 in area the Escape Pod One</font> (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=103;Y=103;Z=1'>JMP</a>)
[22:40:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : gasps!
[22:40:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> gasps!
[22:40:13] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:13] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:14] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:14] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:14] b6w-c91t ADMIN: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) Richard Sanchez is affected by breakdown A Lesson Learnt with duration 0 (<a HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=106;Y=103;Z=1'>JMP</a>)
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : gasps!
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> gasps!
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t SAY: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : W-Wh-h-hat-t-t t-t-t-th-he hel-ll-l-l
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:15] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:17] b6w-c91t SAY: Donny Smith/Largechef : Holy shit.
[22:40:17] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) was blocked by Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:18] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Driecg36/(Roy Gardner) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:18] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:18] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Emily Fall/The_fenix_32 : <B>Emily Fall</B> glares.
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : gasps!
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> gasps!
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t SAY: Donny Smith/Largechef : Wait, wait.
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Kiroking/(Aiden Mercer) has Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : screams!
[22:40:19] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Richard Sanchez/Mateja03 : <B>Richard Sanchez</B> screams!
[22:40:21] b6w-c91t SAY: Jimmy Bean/Fireclaw787 : Walk home clown



The above text is the attack logs. Clearly it was premeditated. It may appear someone may have got too excited and went ahead with the beating. However you join in and make yourself look quite bad with you dealing a lot of the brute damage.

[22:43:28] b6w-c91t GAME: Antagonists at round end were...
[22:43:28] b6w-c91t GAME: excelsior_revs, Suzan Trost(Redfur Bouncymug).
[22:43:28] b6w-c91t GAME: traitors, Richard Sanchez(Mateja03).

This above is when round ended. It was not even 'end of grief' or whatever eroarg means. Round did not end for another 3 minute after the incident


The two weeks are given because you planned this and are not even remotely an antagonist or had any legitimate reason to beat the actor to death. No reason at all. Not even in the logs does it show any sort of discussion other than, 'lets beat him up nya~!'

Everyone involve were given the same ban for the same scenario. Any previous issue was ignored as this was most needed issue to deal with. What you did previously was not really cared about or looked at in detail. I already spoken with people involved in your earlier actions in round and decided not to bother with it. These two week were given solely on the fact you and 2 other people planned to beat the actor for shit and giggling.

Yes there is ccp virus and such. Eris is open on weekends and I haven't been to work for 3 weeks. Even so all bans take into account the next two weekend tests. Will your ban be shorten? That is up to Gray to decide. Just know Eris is not a LRP server and will not tolerate dumb fuck head roles who orchastrate random beatings on others just because 'tehe~!' it promotes awfulness among the players and if punishment is not worthy no one will care.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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"[22:35:56] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : Solid kick.
[22:35:58] b6w-c91t EMOTE: Jazlyn Ali/ImNotTraitor : snores.

This tells me you were completely fine with his person assaulting the actor and even encouraged it."


This was a different incident where someone misclicked and kicked someone. I said nice kick as a joke. It wasn't even on the actor I don't think.

"You were planning to beat the actor as soon as they showed up as shown in logs. Only one person mentioned anything regarding killing the others in the second escape pod when round ended."

Again this was a misphrasing, I wanted to beat him up after the pods departed, but I suppose that's just my word against yours.

"[22:39:31] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : If he's in the other shuttle.
[22:39:34] b6w-c91t SAY: Lieutenant Gardner/Driecg36 : We all rush him."


I think this shows my intent for it to be after the round ended, not before. Wanted to rush him at the end of round station.

"[22:39:58] b6w-c91t ATTACK: Buggie Wise/(Nena Goodman) has kicked Mateja03/(Richard Sanchez)"

I was not the first one to kick him, I just joined in because I thought the 30 second difference before the pod departed wouldn't matter.

"Any previous issue was ignored as this was most needed issue to deal with. What you did previously was not really cared about or looked at in detail. I already spoken with people involved in your earlier actions in round and decided not to bother with it. "

This was not clear in the ban text, which is why I chose to explain my actions for that as well.

"Just know Eris is not a LRP server and will not tolerate dumb fuck head roles who orchastrate random beatings on others just because 'tehe~!' it promotes awfulness among the players and if punishment is not worthy no one will care."

I have played head roles time and time again and I think of myself to be a pretty quality player. I play head roles without incident constantly (Roy Gardner, Rayner Cypret) and I never grief or organize random beatings. I am not an LRP player either. This was a single, isolated incident that was a brief lapse of judgement in not waiting an extra 3 minutes to beat up the actor (or 15 seconds if you count the pod departing as when the round ends, which is unclear).
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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" I have read the rules, considering that I have not broken them in over a year of playing here except for one occasion where I performed EORG literal seconds before it was allowed."
This tells me that not only are you actually ignoring what's being said -- and the logs in these messages -- you are apparently incapable of understanding WHY this is an issue.

For future reference: the round is not over until antagonists are shown and the round is preparing to restart. That isn't something that's unclear, that's just an apparent lack of common sense on your end.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

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I am not ignoring what is being said. I understand that murdering someone before the round end is a problem and that taking someone out of a round is a dickish thing to do. However, I think you are not listening to me either - I did not intend to grief or ruin someone's round, this was a dumb mistake and I believe that a two week ban (which is a very long amount of time during a quarantine) is vastly excessive for a 3 minute discrepancy.

As to the round end issue, I also believed the round was not over until the end text showed up until I saw EORG occur on the departed pod time and time again while admins were on and no action was taken. Sometimes things defy common sense and I decided to trust what I had seen for myself rather than assumptions, though I will correct my behavior for the future.
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Re: driecg36 - banned by Alanii

Post by Gray »

Mhm, with the points raised by Alani and Ancient, I am against shortening or lifting your ban.

This may have been a mistake, but it's a mistake brought upon by your decision and not a lack of information. You'll have to sit this one out.
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